Dragonfly wrote:I wonder if frame times were longer back then not due to player's shot time being slower, but because the game wasn't as attacking. Say like today player's get the pack open early and make 80 break. Back then it was more of make 40, play safe and make 40 again.
So I don't know if players were taking ages over their shots, although there were a few slow coaches. Just that the style of play wasn't as aggressive as it is now.
While it's true constant big breaks were rarer, what I saw from both players appeared to be full-on attacking snooker. Long reds from the white in balk every frame (and them often going in), tough angled shots, mid range blues to the balk pockets, taking the tougher shot for better positioning, etc.
Andre147 wrote:When making a break, I dont think players were slower, but the difference was frames went for longer because players often came to the table when needing countless snookers to win.
Conceding a frame wasn't very popular, and the first one to do it wwhen few snookers were required was actually Alex Higgins.
Yes, Spencer did come back to the table and fight on for many snookers when he was about 23 behind and no-one seemed to mind and even seemed to expect it.
However, I did notice that even during safety exchanges, snookering and getting out of snookers, there didn't seem to be much in the way of dallying with each shot, they seemed to instantly know what they wanted to do and got down and tried it. So it still didn't feel slow or dragging.
lhpirnie wrote:If a player is on a break, 10-15s per shot is not especially fast. The AST figures aren't as meaningful as are sometimes made out. The matches used to take much longer in the past because they weren't getting breaks. Really, the standard now is so much better. Part of that is due to different conditions, but it's also because the game has moved on.
Oh indeed, the game is so different now in so many respects there's little point comparing standards, you wouldn't compare old leather ball football before the off-side rule to modern Premiership games.
When you say matches used to take longer, what specific examples are you imagining? That's kind of the point here, let's have a look at some examples of some long matches and asses whether they really were longer.