by D4P » 18 Feb 2023 Read
The Welsh Open marks the 11th ranking event of the season, and only 1 of those 11 will have been won by Selby/Ronnie/Judd/Robertson/Williams/Higgins. What do you think is the single most accurate explanation for why the top players haven't won ranking events so far this season?
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by LDS » 18 Feb 2023 Read
I think it's always premature to judge a season prior to the World Championship as it usually changes everything. We go in predicting a Joe Johnson year and it turns into a Ronnie Selby final, we predict a Ronnie Selby final and it'll be Judd v Ding, etc.
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by SnookerFan » 18 Feb 2023 Read
D4P wrote:The Welsh Open marks the 11th ranking event of the season, and only 1 of those 11 will have been won by Selby/Ronnie/Judd/Robertson/Williams/Higgins. What do you think is the single most accurate explanation for why the top players haven't won ranking events so far this season?
I think the main reason is because other people have won the tournaments instead.
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by Alex0paul » 18 Feb 2023 Read
The tournaments all feel a bit tin pot
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by SnookerEd25 » 18 Feb 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:D4P wrote:The Welsh Open marks the 11th ranking event of the season, and only 1 of those 11 will have been won by Selby/Ronnie/Judd/Robertson/Williams/Higgins. What do you think is the single most accurate explanation for why the top players haven't won ranking events so far this season?
I think the main reason is because other people have won the tournaments instead.
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by Dan-cat » 18 Feb 2023 Read
Ronnie won the CoC which is basically the same as a ranker.
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by SnookerFan » 19 Feb 2023 Read
Dan-cat wrote:Ronnie won the CoC which is basically the same as a ranker.
He also won in Hong Kong.
And Judd won The Masters.
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by Dan-cat » 19 Feb 2023 Read
There really isn’t any difference between rankers and non rankers. They are tournaments featuring top players with varying amounts of frames and cash available.
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by Juddernaut88 » 19 Feb 2023 Read
It's just one of those weird seasons so far. I'd expect a big name player to win the World championship.
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by lhpirnie » 19 Feb 2023 Read
Dan-cat wrote:There really isn’t any difference between rankers and non rankers. They are tournaments featuring top players with varying amounts of frames and cash available.
Yes and invitational events are shorter, yet still have excellent prize money. It's not unreasonable for the top players to do better in them. But I agree it makes a mockery of the rankings, both 1-year and 2-year.
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by Dan-cat » 19 Feb 2023 Read
Juddernaut88 wrote:It's just one of those weird seasons so far. I'd expect a big name player to win the World championship.
The Milkman Cometh!
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by Johnny Bravo » 19 Feb 2023 Read
Players don't give a rat's bottom if they win a ranker or a invitational, they just care about the prize money.
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by SnookerFan » 20 Feb 2023 Read
Johnny Bravo wrote:Players don't give a rat's bottom if they win a ranker or a invitational, they just care about the prize money.
So, you think that players don't care about improving their world ranking?
You think players don't care whether they get into The Masters, or not? You think players don't care about getting into the top-16 when The Crucible is coming up? You don't think players want to get enough ranking points on the one-year list to get into the World Grand Prix, Players Championships or Tour Championships?
Of course players want to win non-ranking tournaments, and maximize their prize money as well. That doesn't mean they "don't give a damn" about winning ranking events.
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by Holden Chinaski » 20 Feb 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Players don't give a rat's bottom if they win a ranker or a invitational, they just care about the prize money.
So, you think that players don't care about improving their world ranking?
You think players don't care whether they get into The Masters, or not? You think players don't care about getting into the top-16 when The Crucible is coming up? You don't think players want to get enough ranking points on the one-year list to get into the World Grand Prix, Players Championships or Tour Championships?
Of course players want to win non-ranking tournaments, and maximize their prize money as well. That doesn't mean they "don't give a damn" about winning ranking events.
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by The_Abbott » 20 Feb 2023 Read
Jimmy plays for the ranking points.
I think its between an improvement from other players - they see others winning and gives them the belief that they can also win a title and a lack of interest - for various reasons we know Ronnie is Ronnie. Higgins is not in great form, Selby has off table issues, Robbo probably got lost.
I like snooker is so open. Its boring when the same players winning everything.
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by SnookerFan » 20 Feb 2023 Read
The_Abbott wrote:Jimmy plays for the ranking points.
I think its between an improvement from other players - they see others winning and gives them the belief that they can also win a title and a lack of interest - for various reasons we know Ronnie is Ronnie. Higgins is not in great form, Selby has off table issues, Robbo probably got lost.
I like snooker is so open. Its boring when the same players winning everything.
We always hear about how the strength in depth is great these days, but then people throw their toys out of their pram if somebody who isn't in the top-16 wins a tournament.
Do we want to go back to the 1980s, where a Steve Davis type won everything? Be kind of boring.
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by Dragonfly » 20 Feb 2023 Read
It's good to see a bit more variety this season. However come the long matches at the Crucible I expect to see the familiar faces at the business end.
It's just strange that some very big names, O'Sullivan, Robertson and Trump have all been poor enough by their standards, all at the same time.
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by badtemperedcyril » 21 Feb 2023 Read
Coincidence largely. It’s what happens when BO7s are staple in most tourneys. Anyone can win or lose. Mark Allen’s new found confidence and inspiration has also guided him to a tidy share of the silverware. If one guys winning ‘em, the others are not.
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by The_Abbott » 23 Feb 2023 Read
Top Players not winning
Other top players currently banned
Jimmy on a title drought
Really is an open field these days.
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by SnookerFan » 23 Feb 2023 Read
Dan-cat wrote:There really isn’t any difference between rankers and non rankers. They are tournaments featuring top players with varying amounts of frames and cash available.
I believe that ranking events affect a players' rank, and non-rankers don't though.
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by SnookerEd25 » 23 Feb 2023 Read
SnookerFan wrote:Dan-cat wrote:There really isn’t any difference between rankers and non rankers. They are tournaments featuring top players with varying amounts of frames and cash available.
I believe that ranking events affect a players' rank, and non-rankers don't though.
Interesting hypothesis
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by Iranu » 23 Feb 2023 Read
SnookerEd25 wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Dan-cat wrote:There really isn’t any difference between rankers and non rankers. They are tournaments featuring top players with varying amounts of frames and cash available.
I believe that ranking events affect a players' rank, and non-rankers don't though.
Interesting hypothesis
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by SnookerEd25 » 23 Feb 2023 Read
Ohmygoodnessthatssodepressing
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by Granite » 25 Feb 2023 Read
Combination of form and lack of interest imo
Judd Trump is unexplainable but the rest there's varying reasons.
Higgins took a lot of blows last year losing 5 finals so it was always going to be hard to replicate anything similar.
Pretty easy to tell O'Sullivan has 0 interest in bo7 matches and the current tour is mainly just that. Arguable he revolves his form around the Worlds and Triple Crowns these days.
Robertson could be trying to save his best for the Worlds.
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by lhpirnie » 18 Mar 2023 Read
Yes, I agree with that. I'm pretty sure the tables have been re-covered less often.
Table technology is something I think should have been researched more. It may not be in the table suppliers' interests to reduce the costs of table maintenance.
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by D4P » 18 Mar 2023 Read
lhpirnie wrote:I'm pretty sure the tables have been re-covered less often.
I assume this is a cost-cutting move...?
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by The_Abbott » 20 Mar 2023 Read
Its probably to do with Brexit or Co-Vid. Or the War.
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