Re: Gujinggong Liquor Haikou World Open Final Discussion!
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NNear wrote:Like I said, I'm only counting elite opposition, so.. legends of the game, more or less.
I'm sure if I count the elite opposition of the other top players I will find typically much better success rates.
Ding Junhui has won 7 of 10 ranking finals against really elite players , and 10 of 13 overall.
Neil Robertson has won 5 of 7 ranking finals against really elite players and 9 of 13 overall.
Mark Selby has won 3 of 10 ranking finals against elite players and 3 of 11 overall.
Yes congratulations to Mark on his Masters triumphs but I'm sure he sees his record in finals generally as a problem that he wishes to rectify rather than dismissing it as, 'Oh well whatevers my competition is tough.'
Alex0paul wrote:The winner of the World Open has gone out of the World Championship in the first round every year
Skullman wrote:He also played well in the Welsh final against Ding and still lost. He does fact good opponents a lot of the time, but the real reason is he normally doesn't play well or starts playing well much too late. Why?
Look at this final. He only won one frame in one visit.
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Who has a better chance of winning the World title this year, Selby or Murphy?
Skullman wrote:He also played well in the Welsh final against Ding and still lost. He does fact good opponents a lot of the time, but the real reason is he normally doesn't play well or starts playing well much too late. Why?
Look at this final. He only won one frame in one visit.
Holden Chinaski wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Who has a better chance of winning the World title this year, Selby or Murphy?
Both don't stand a chance in my opinion. But Murphy is more likely than Selby. Selby needs to change the way he's been playing, something very wrong with his game.
Andre147 PGC wrote:Holden Chinaski wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Who has a better chance of winning the World title this year, Selby or Murphy?
Both don't stand a chance in my opinion. But Murphy is more likely than Selby. Selby needs to change the way he's been playing, something very wrong with his game.
Hard to say, and a lot depends on how the draw pans out.
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Andre147 PGC wrote:Holden Chinaski wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Who has a better chance of winning the World title this year, Selby or Murphy?
Both don't stand a chance in my opinion. But Murphy is more likely than Selby. Selby needs to change the way he's been playing, something very wrong with his game.
Hard to say, and a lot depends on how the draw pans out.
At the moment it looks like Murphy will be in Ronnie's quarter along with Fu, Selby in the bottom half with Carter, Higgins and Hawkins in the same quarter. Not easy for either of them.
Andre147 PGC wrote:Selby and Hawkins at the Worlds
Skullman wrote:Andre147 PGC wrote:Selby and Hawkins at the Worlds
Higgins could knock him out hopefully.
Although Selby and Higgins at the Worlds...
Andre147 PGC wrote:But well all this talk about Selby and we forget about Murphy's win
His 5th ranker, been a long time since he won one. His new diet and fitness regime has definately played a big part, since the turn of the New Year he has played some good snooker.
Fun fact: Prior to Welsh Open, we hadn't had a British winner of a ranking event this season, now we've had 2 back to back: Ronnie at the Welsh and Murphy here.
Holden Chinaski wrote:Selby needs to learn how to be a good front runner, cause if you only start playing good when behind you will not win much big finals.
Against the top players it's important to take a lead and keep your opponent at distance, and punish every misstake. Like ROS does.
Selby should watch the upcoming ROS show on eurosport, might learn something.
Skullman wrote:Andre147 PGC wrote:But well all this talk about Selby and we forget about Murphy's win
His 5th ranker, been a long time since he won one. His new diet and fitness regime has definately played a big part, since the turn of the New Year he has played some good snooker.
Fun fact: Prior to Welsh Open, we hadn't had a British winner of a ranking event this season, now we've had 2 back to back: Ronnie at the Welsh and Murphy here.
Let's see how this affects him for the last bit of the season. I thought Mags's Welsh win would spur him onto greater things, but it hasn't. Let's see if Murphy's any different.
And one thing about Smurph, his safety game has been as good as I've seen it (except maybe escaping from snookers).
Andre147 PGC wrote:Skullman wrote:Yeah but he was teenager who had barely done anything then. He was the Swail/Burnett in that situation.
Like Higgins wasn't a teenager too
Skullman wrote:He also played well in the Welsh final against Ding and still lost. He does fact good opponents a lot of the time, but the real reason is he normally doesn't play well or starts playing well much too late. Why?
Look at this final. He only won one frame in one visit.
TheRocket wrote:Skullman wrote:He also played well in the Welsh final against Ding and still lost. He does fact good opponents a lot of the time, but the real reason is he normally doesn't play well or starts playing well much too late. Why?
Look at this final. He only won one frame in one visit.
I haven't watched this tournament basicially, except 1 or 2 matches and also not the final today but IMO this is the main problem of Selby for more than 2 years now. I still give him credit for still winning these matches and reaching finals but he's never gonna win the world by playing like this.
It's so much harder in these longer matches to grind. Your head and your body would feel exhausted.
Jester82 wrote:Who is this Ronald Antonio O'Sullivan, everbody is talking about? Is he any good?