Re: World Championship Final: Ronnie O'Sullivan v Mark Selby
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Skullman wrote:Just wanted to share a stat with you. If Mark were to win, he'd be only the second player to beat both the number 1 and 2 seeds.
The first being Dennis Taylor (Knowles in the semis, Davis in the final), who decided to be an overachiever and beat the number 3 seed as well! (Thorburn in the quarters).
BTW That year was also the last time a player who had the Saturday off lost the final.
GJ wrote:Yeah Boris whatever you say ....
Skullman wrote:Just wanted to share a stat with you. If Mark were to win, he'd be only the second player to beat both the number 1 and 2 seeds.
The first being Dennis Taylor (Knowles in the semis, Davis in the final), who decided to be an overachiever and beat the number 3 seed as well! (Thorburn in the quarters).
BTW That year was also the last time a player who had the Saturday off lost the final.
Vallomas wrote:Skullman wrote:Just wanted to share a stat with you. If Mark were to win, he'd be only the second player to beat both the number 1 and 2 seeds.
The first being Dennis Taylor (Knowles in the semis, Davis in the final), who decided to be an overachiever and beat the number 3 seed as well! (Thorburn in the quarters).
BTW That year was also the last time a player who had the Saturday off lost the final.
Another chance for Dennis Taylor to remind you what happened in 1985.
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Mark Selby got into Ronnie's head a few times in the past. Fortunately that won't happen again these days. Mark will have to beat Ronnie by playing the better snooker, no chance of frustrating him anymore.
Selby played very well tonight but overall I did notice some weaknesses in his game and I'm confident Ronnie will take full advantage of them.
Vallomas wrote:Skullman wrote:Just wanted to share a stat with you. If Mark were to win, he'd be only the second player to beat both the number 1 and 2 seeds.
The first being Dennis Taylor (Knowles in the semis, Davis in the final), who decided to be an overachiever and beat the number 3 seed as well! (Thorburn in the quarters).
BTW That year was also the last time a player who had the Saturday off lost the final.
Another chance for Dennis Taylor to remind you what happened in 1985.
GJ wrote:Mark deserves to join the triple crown career list.
Classy guy and robbo aside there's no other player I would be more happier to see win a worlds than mark.
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Mark Selby got into Ronnie's head a few times in the past. Fortunately that won't happen again these days. Mark will have to beat Ronnie by playing the better snooker, no chance of frustrating him anymore.
Selby played very well tonight but overall I did notice some weaknesses in his game and I'm confident Ronnie will take full advantage of them.
Practical_Frost wrote:12 out of the last 13 finals have been won by the finalist who won their semi final more easily(in terms of number of frames conceded). So it's not looking good for Selby. The 1 final to buck this trend was in 2002 when Ebdon beat Hendry.
NNear wrote:For once the use of the word buck was intentional.
Andre147 PGC wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Mark Selby got into Ronnie's head a few times in the past. Fortunately that won't happen again these days. Mark will have to beat Ronnie by playing the better snooker, no chance of frustrating him anymore.
Selby played very well tonight but overall I did notice some weaknesses in his game and I'm confident Ronnie will take full advantage of them.
Yeah SO definately agree. Of course if many of the frames go scrappy then thats a clear advantage for Selby, and even though he might not get into Ronnie's head if like I say many frames have that pattern then Ronnie might try to force the issue, and that will be Selby's best chance to counterattack.
But Ronnie's safety game is brilliant too, and like you say SO he wasn't exactly flawless against Robbo even though he played very well. I said it yesterday, if Ronnie had finished his match against Hawkins like he did v Murphy then I would have some serious doubt as to what he would produce in the Final, but the way Ronnie played in that 3rd session against Hawkins makes me feel very confident ahead of this cracking Final.
Ronnie is well up for it, as is Mark, and the fatigue on Selby's part might not come into play tomorrow but on Monday if things are getting tense he may start to feel it too.
Can't wait for this one, could be the most difficult World Final ever for Ronnie, even more than the 2001 Final v Higgins.
Wildey wrote:Ronnie will have to raise his game considerably to beat Selby tomorrow, what we have seen so far from him wont be anywhere near good enough to win but we all know how Ronnie can raise his game when needed.
But can he in the final?
mantorok wrote:Andre147 PGC wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Mark Selby got into Ronnie's head a few times in the past. Fortunately that won't happen again these days. Mark will have to beat Ronnie by playing the better snooker, no chance of frustrating him anymore.
Selby played very well tonight but overall I did notice some weaknesses in his game and I'm confident Ronnie will take full advantage of them.
Yeah SO definately agree. Of course if many of the frames go scrappy then thats a clear advantage for Selby, and even though he might not get into Ronnie's head if like I say many frames have that pattern then Ronnie might try to force the issue, and that will be Selby's best chance to counterattack.
But Ronnie's safety game is brilliant too, and like you say SO he wasn't exactly flawless against Robbo even though he played very well. I said it yesterday, if Ronnie had finished his match against Hawkins like he did v Murphy then I would have some serious doubt as to what he would produce in the Final, but the way Ronnie played in that 3rd session against Hawkins makes me feel very confident ahead of this cracking Final.
Ronnie is well up for it, as is Mark, and the fatigue on Selby's part might not come into play tomorrow but on Monday if things are getting tense he may start to feel it too.
Can't wait for this one, could be the most difficult World Final ever for Ronnie, even more than the 2001 Final v Higgins.
Dont compare Selby with Higgins.....