by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
V.V wrote:Finland, Turku
Finland, nice country
You obviously must like Robin Hull then, best player from there, unfortunately health issues prevented him from really progressing in his career but he's comeback now and he's a good player.
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by Pedro147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Personally think Allen's cue action will let him down in crunch matches. He doesn't have a flowing cue action and under pressure it seems to be his undoing. He's behind Ding, Robbo, Ronnie and Trump ability wise. In the big comps, there's always someone just that bit better than him.
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by V.V » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Yes and his from Turku
He did not got choose to be best billiard player of Finland since the title went to wheel chair pool player (who definetly is a great fellow). Maybe they dont consired snooker as a kind of billiard in Finland, which is wrong
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by Clara8633 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Andre147 wrote:V.V wrote:sorry, i lost my terms
Big tournaments I meant
May I ask where you from? as I'm also not English
Your English is pretty good though.
Unless it's a typing mistake which everyone does, lol.
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by V.V » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Pedro147 wrote:Personally think Allen's cue action will let him down in crunch matches. He doesn't have a flowing cue action and under pressure it seems to be his undoing. He's behind Ding, Robbo, Ronnie and Trump ability wise. In the big comps, there's always someone just that bit better than him.
I imagine him as a bulldozer: he gets throught to certain point by just brutal break-building force. There usually are some obstacles which stop the bulldozer, but once the day comes that there are enough power in the bulldozer and it will go throught to WC.
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Clara8633 wrote:Andre147 wrote:V.V wrote:sorry, i lost my terms
Big tournaments I meant
May I ask where you from? as I'm also not English
Your English is pretty good though.
Yes I know
I have a couple oe family members who are English and I've always felt at ease with foreign languages anyway. And there are quite a few here who aren't English yet their English is pretty damn good, you wouldn't notice it unless they've told you.
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by shankly » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Great match, I enjoyed that. Was rooting for Higgins there because I like watching him play, but I thought it was a solid, poised performance from Allen. I like Mark, he's got sportsmanship, personality and a funky grip/cue action.
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
V.V wrote:Pedro147 wrote:Personally think Allen's cue action will let him down in crunch matches. He doesn't have a flowing cue action and under pressure it seems to be his undoing. He's behind Ding, Robbo, Ronnie and Trump ability wise. In the big comps, there's always someone just that bit better than him.
I imagine him as a bulldozer: he gets throught to certain point by just brutal break-building force. There usually are some obstacles which stop the bulldozer, but once the day comes that there are enough power in the bulldozer and it will go throught to WC.
bulldozer huh
Allen has everything to be World Champ, and his game is not just about brutal force in breakbuilding, he has a great safety game too and a great temperament, and above all his grit and determination is all there, he never gives up. I think he will be World Champ, I just hope he's not another Matthew Stevens because if someone told you back in 2000 Matthew would never be World Champ you must definately would have laughed at him saying that.
Of course he can still be, but his odds are as good as Jimmy White ones
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by Pedro147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
V.V wrote:Pedro147 wrote:Personally think Allen's cue action will let him down in crunch matches. He doesn't have a flowing cue action and under pressure it seems to be his undoing. He's behind Ding, Robbo, Ronnie and Trump ability wise. In the big comps, there's always someone just that bit better than him.
I imagine him as a bulldozer: he gets throught to certain point by just brutal break-building force. There usually are some obstacles which stop the bulldozer, but once the day comes that there are enough power in the bulldozer and it will go throught to WC.
He's lacking a small bit in every department though. Cue action/technique, break building, safety, temperament. In every game something doesn't click as it should. This is why he doesn't win as much as he should. Just my opinion anyway.
It was only when Selby got a more solid cue action did he really improve into a top 4 player, apart from the WC final appearance before that. Allen hasn't developed like he could or should have. As I said just my opinion anyway.
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by Snooker Overdrive » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Skullman wrote:And 6-4 it is. Easily the best match so far.
Hope the rest of the tournament carries on like this, been a tad lacklustre quality wise so far.
And it's the only match I missed
I blame the BBC. It's unacceptable to always put the better matches in the afternoon slot. Hearn has to do something about this.
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by Skullman » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Don't think there's anything wrong with his temperament.
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by Skullman » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Skullman wrote:And 6-4 it is. Easily the best match so far.
Hope the rest of the tournament carries on like this, been a tad lacklustre quality wise so far.
And it's the only match I missed
I blame the BBC. It's unacceptable to always put the better matches in the afternoon slot. Hearn has to do something about this.
There's always iPlayer. Really worth a watch.
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by Pedro147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Skullman wrote:Don't think there's anything wrong with his temperament.
Again in my opinion, he loses focus and interest when behind. Never seems to come from behind for a massive win, especially at the latter stages of comps. Ronnie is one of the greatest ever and when he lost interest in matches even he couldn't win so an even bigger obstacle for someone like Allen who isn't as good as Ronnie (although not many are). It's only when Ronnie has got his head together that he has really become a force.
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Pedro147 wrote:Skullman wrote:Don't think there's anything wrong with his temperament.
Again in my opinion, he loses focus and interest when behind. Never seems to come from behind for a massive win, especially at the latter stages of comps. Ronnie is one of the greatest ever and when he lost interest in matches even he couldn't win so an even bigger obstacle for someone like Allen who isn't as good as Ronnie (although not many are). It's only when Ronnie has got his head together that he has really become a force.
Selby will have a different opinion when you say Allen never seems to come from behind in a win
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Skullman wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Skullman wrote:And 6-4 it is. Easily the best match so far.
Hope the rest of the tournament carries on like this, been a tad lacklustre quality wise so far.
And it's the only match I missed
I blame the BBC. It's unacceptable to always put the better matches in the afternoon slot. Hearn has to do something about this.
There's always iPlayer. Really worth a watch.
Yeah it's great iPlayer, it's only available in UK but that is no problem for me as there's always a way to get an UK IP adress
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by Pedro147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Andre147 wrote:Pedro147 wrote:Skullman wrote:Don't think there's anything wrong with his temperament.
Again in my opinion, he loses focus and interest when behind. Never seems to come from behind for a massive win, especially at the latter stages of comps. Ronnie is one of the greatest ever and when he lost interest in matches even he couldn't win so an even bigger obstacle for someone like Allen who isn't as good as Ronnie (although not many are). It's only when Ronnie has got his head together that he has really become a force.
Selby will have a different opinion when you say Allen never seems to come from behind in a win
Not that he's never done it but not often enough. He's probably similar level to Bingham in my opinion. There really isn't anyway I could put him ahead of Murphy, Ronnie, Robbo or Ding to win this comp and that's with several seeds knocked out already.
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Pedro147 wrote:Andre147 wrote:Pedro147 wrote:Skullman wrote:Don't think there's anything wrong with his temperament.
Again in my opinion, he loses focus and interest when behind. Never seems to come from behind for a massive win, especially at the latter stages of comps. Ronnie is one of the greatest ever and when he lost interest in matches even he couldn't win so an even bigger obstacle for someone like Allen who isn't as good as Ronnie (although not many are). It's only when Ronnie has got his head together that he has really become a force.
Selby will have a different opinion when you say Allen never seems to come from behind in a win
Not that he's never done it but not often enough. He's probably similar level to Bingham in my opinion. There really isn't anyway I could put him ahead of Murphy, Ronnie, Robbo or Ding to win this comp and that's with several seeds knocked out already.
Right now I would definately put Allen above Ding and Murphy to win this tournament.
For me it's Ronnie 1st, Robbo 2nd and Allen 3rd. Ding has done nothing this season and I reckon Perry will knock him out aswell.
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by Pedro147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Think Murph played well despite the 6-5 scoreline because as we all know you need to scrape Selby off the table to beat him. Perhaps right on Ding, hasn't been good this season.
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by Snooker Overdrive » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Skullman wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Skullman wrote:And 6-4 it is. Easily the best match so far.
Hope the rest of the tournament carries on like this, been a tad lacklustre quality wise so far.
And it's the only match I missed
I blame the BBC. It's unacceptable to always put the better matches in the afternoon slot. Hearn has to do something about this.
There's always iPlayer. Really worth a watch.
I already skipped through the last couple of frames and looked at the key shots. However it's just not the same as watching it live. These last couple of years I have been very fortunate to have so much spare time in the afternoons but in the coming years that will change. And I don't want to miss out on the best matches just because the BBC can't be fussed to broadcast snooker in the evenings.
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Skullman wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Skullman wrote:And 6-4 it is. Easily the best match so far.
Hope the rest of the tournament carries on like this, been a tad lacklustre quality wise so far.
And it's the only match I missed
I blame the BBC. It's unacceptable to always put the better matches in the afternoon slot. Hearn has to do something about this.
There's always iPlayer. Really worth a watch.
I already skipped through the last couple of frames and looked at the key shots. However it's just not the same as watching it live. These last couple of years I have been very fortunate to have so much spare time in the afternoons but in the coming years that will change. And I don't want to miss out on the best matches just because the BBC can't be fussed to broadcast snooker in the evenings.
Key misses from Higgins: Frame 4, missed green when on 50 odd; missed final red when looking like 3-1. And frame 8, Higgins missed a thin red to top left corner.
But Higgins scored very well, could have had 4 tons in that match but those steals from Allen proved decisive.
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by Snooker Overdrive » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Andre147 wrote:V.V wrote:Pedro147 wrote:Personally think Allen's cue action will let him down in crunch matches. He doesn't have a flowing cue action and under pressure it seems to be his undoing. He's behind Ding, Robbo, Ronnie and Trump ability wise. In the big comps, there's always someone just that bit better than him.
I imagine him as a bulldozer: he gets throught to certain point by just brutal break-building force. There usually are some obstacles which stop the bulldozer, but once the day comes that there are enough power in the bulldozer and it will go throught to WC.
bulldozer huh
Allen has everything to be World Champ, and his game is not just about brutal force in breakbuilding, he has a great safety game too and a great temperament, and above all his grit and determination is all there, he never gives up. I think he will be World Champ, I just hope he's not another Matthew Stevens because if someone told you back in 2000 Matthew would never be World Champ you must definately would have laughed at him saying that.
Of course he can still be, but his odds are as good as Jimmy White ones
Mark Allen is a very interesting player. I definitely consider him an underachiever so far. He turns 29 next month and has only won two ranking titles. He only has one appearance in a final of a major. Allen has all the talent but he just isn't converting yet.
I think he gets bogged down against slow players way too easily (recent examples: Gerard Green in the 2014 PTC Grand finals and Rod Lawler in the 2014 UK). Also he often can't respond if he plays against a top player who really steps it up (Robbo in the 2014 World Championship).
But he still has time and he's improving all the time although only slowly.
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by TheRocket » 14 Jan 2015 Read
A pity really that Higgins lost this. I thought, this was really the first time since a long time that he played good/solid stuff and I thought, with this kind of performance he definitely could reach the semis, maybe even the final.
Unfortunately for him, all the mistakes he made were huge ones and he gave Allen excellent chances. The 4th and 8th frame obviously were big ones as Allen won both on the black, the latter one even after getting a snooker.
But that's just one of the things what happens to you when you're in decline. 4-5 years ago (prime) Higgins would be the one winning all the close frames. How many times we saw Higgins making an excellent pressure clearance to win on the black? But that's just gone now.
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by Snooker Overdrive » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Andre147 wrote:Key misses from Higgins: Frame 4, missed green when on 50 odd; missed final red when looking like 3-1. And frame 8, Higgins missed a thin red to top left corner.
But Higgins scored very well, could have had 4 tons in that match but those steals from Allen proved decisive.
Higgins was unlucky with his draw this time, wasn't he?
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Andre147 wrote:Key misses from Higgins: Frame 4, missed green when on 50 odd; missed final red when looking like 3-1. And frame 8, Higgins missed a thin red to top left corner.
But Higgins scored very well, could have had 4 tons in that match but those steals from Allen proved decisive.
Higgins was unlucky with his draw this time, wasn't he?
Yes, but mainly because Allen played superbly aswell. Against any other of the Quarter-Finalists, Fu maybe an exception, Higgins would have won against them.
Like TR, I feel a bit sory for him because even though he's definately not one of my favourites I don't like to see a great player like him fall apart like this, same with MJW.
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by TheRocket » 14 Jan 2015 Read
When it comes to Allen, I think, Skull already said it 20 minutes ago or like that. His biggest problem in my eyes is that his best game isn't as good as Ronnies,Robbos,Selbys,Trumps or Ding. So there's basicially always one player left at least, who will beat him and stop him winning the really big trophies like Trump did in the UK 2011 and Robbo in last years WC.
It was a high quality match between him and Robbo until 7:7, but the difference was that Allen was playing at his best while Robbo still had room for improvement and then he produced his best game and Allen simply didn't have the power to hit back. It was very characteristic.
Mark Allen is a little bit similar to Matthew Stevens. Matthew was a topplayer, capable of beating anyone but you always had the feeling that there is still one player in the tournament, who is still better than him. Nevertheless, we know that Matthew won two majors and that's what Allen surely can do as well. If he keeps playing like this , he even has a good chance here at the Masters.
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Yes I also compared him with Stevens a bit earlier. I just hope he doesnt become another Stevens and doesnt win the Worlds, nobody back in 2000 would have thought Matthew would never become World Champ but fact is he didnt win it, and he certainly wont win it now.
Maybe Allen needs to have a kind draw to ever win the Worlds or even UK or Masters, because if he faces too many top players like Ronnie, Robbo or Ding, he's bound to lose at some point, because unlike them he lacks consistency in his game.
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by Snooker Overdrive » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Before the start of the week Ronnie v Allen was my dream final. Let's see if we get it.
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by TheRocket » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Andre147 wrote:Yes I also compared him with Stevens a bit earlier. I just hope he doesnt become another Stevens and doesnt win the Worlds, nobody back in 2000 would have thought Matthew would never become World Champ but fact is he didnt win it, and he certainly wont win it now.
Maybe Allen needs to have a kind draw to ever win the Worlds or even UK or Masters, because if he faces too many top players like Ronnie, Robbo or Ding, he's bound to lose at some point, because unlike them he lacks consistency in his game.
Hopefully we can say that about Judd and Ding as well. In their case it would be even a bigger shame. I still believe that if Judd had won it in 2011, he would have a lot more trophies under his belt now.
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by V.V » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Andre147 wrote:Yes I also compared him with Stevens a bit earlier. I just hope he doesnt become another Stevens and doesnt win the Worlds, nobody back in 2000 would have thought Matthew would never become World Champ but fact is he didnt win it, and he certainly wont win it now.
Maybe Allen needs to have a kind draw to ever win the Worlds or even UK or Masters, because if he faces too many top players like Ronnie, Robbo or Ding, he's bound to lose at some point, because unlike them he lacks consistency in his game.
exactly
the right draw and the bulldozer gets throuht
that is what meant by calling him buldozer
ronnie, robbo and even selby are old men when allen is still in his prime.so only trump and ding left to be won then
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by Andre147 » 14 Jan 2015 Read
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Before the start of the week Ronnie v Allen was my dream final. Let's see if we get it.
No Ronnie v Judd?
or even Selby v Ronnie?
Just joking, yes these two havent played for a long time and their only high profile match was at the Worlds 2009 which Allen won.
EDIT: Sory forgot 2011 Masters when Allen won again, despite Ronnie being in the depths of despair in dismal form
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