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Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Wildey

Andre147 wrote:
Andy Spark wrote:
Wildey wrote:The Rule states you have to be able to hit the ball on both sides so basicly hit the Blue and the blue at least goes near the brown.

Yes he can hit it full ball but only so that the blue goes straight on and that means Selby and murphy was right.

The rule is (or at least definitely was) full ball, not both sides, unless they've changed it very recently. But the argument was about full ball, and you could quite clearly see you could hit full ball.


That hasn't been changed, always been full ball, the only instance it's both sides is when a fould is committed and the player doesnt ask (or can't ask) for the ball to be replaced because he has a free ball situation when he can't hit both extreme edges of the ball on.

This situation is different because Selby simply asked to be replaced, and Murphy could see the blue full on.

By definition if you cant hit the extreme edge of a ball you cant hit the full ball.

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Andre147

Wildey wrote:
Andre147 wrote:Robbo 2 all v Poom... can see an upset there as Robbo hasn't been at his best in this tourney..

Neil more often than not finds a way ....he was far off his best in Wuxi too.


lol... Robbo :wave:

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM :D

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Wildey

Sunday 24th of August

9am

Last 16
Mark Selby 4-1 Liang Wenbo
Ricky Walden 4-2 Fergal O'Brien
Judd Trump 4-2 Stephen Maguire
Tian Pengfei 4-2 Ronnie O'Sullivan
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Neil Robertson 2-4 Dechawat Poomjaeng
Rod Lawler 4-0 Fraser Patrick
Alan McManus 4-2 Xiao Guodong
Robert Milkins 1-4 Mark Allen

12pm

Quarter Finals
Mark Selby v Ricky Waldeneurosport
Judd Trump v Tian Pengfei
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Dechawat Poomjaeng v Rod Lawler
Alan McManus v Mark Allen


3pm

Semi Finals
Mark Selby/Ricky Walden v Judd Trump/Tian Pengfei
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Dechawat Poomjaeng/Rod Lawler v Alan McManus/Mark Allen


7pm

Final

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Wildey

Andre147 wrote:Lawler isn't the last to finish a match :shock: Wins 4-0... Gotta give him some credit after having little sleep.

It was never in doubt

Rod Lawler is tough as Nails

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby vodkadiet

Andre147 wrote:Still wondering how on earth Selby managed to win that 5th frame against Liang... the chinese player must have conceded is my best bet, after feeling ill or something similar.


Audible obscenity.

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby SnookerEd25

Wildey wrote:there is a sub plot in these European tour events with top 16 amataurs on a separate order of merit playing off at the end of the season for 2 spots on the main tour for 2015/2016 and 2016/2017 seasons.

Players in red still in the Paul Hunter Classic after yesterday's play

1 Paul Davison 70
1 Mitchell Travis 70
3 Martin O'Donnell 60
3 Sean O'Sullivan 60
5 Eden Sharav 50
5 Adam Duffy 50
5 Sanderson Lam 50
5 Kishan Hirani 50
5 Thomas J Dowling 50
5 William Lemons 50
5 Andreas Ploner 50
5 Alex Taubman 50
5 Jamie Rhys Clarke 50
14 John Sutton 40
14 Ryan Causton 40
14 Michael Williams 40
14 Duane Jones 40
14 Josh Boileau 40
14 Reanne Evans 40
20 Luke Garland 30
20 Hans Blanckaert 30
20 Michael Collumb 30
20 Jeff Cundy 30
20 Jack Bradford 30
20 Gareth Allen 30
20 Ben Jones 30
20 Christopher Keogan 30
28 Joe O'Connor 20
28 Luca Kaufmann 20
28 Zack Richardson 20
28 Ashley Carty 20
28 Saqib Nasir 20
28 Sascha Lippe 20
28 Marc J Davis 20
28 Ross Higgins 20
28 Dylan Craig 20
28 Andres Petrov 20
28 Nico Elton 20
28 Richard Beckham 20
28 Andrew Rogers 20
28 Martin McCrudden 20
28 Brian Cini 20
28 Anthony Jeffers 20
28 Jake Nicholson 20
28 Sergiy Isayenko 20
28 Rhys Clark 20
28 Billy Brown 20
48 Tan Wang Chooi 10
48 Kobi Mates 10
48 Daniel Wells 10
48 Stephane Ochoiski 10 .
48 Simon Dent 10
48 Jurian Heusdens 10
48 Carl Rosenberger 10
48 Joe Steele 10
48 Stefan Schenk 10
48 Jordan Brown 10
48 Tomasz Skalski 10
48 Roman Dietzel 10
48 Manon Melief 10
48 Ashley Hugill 10
48 Sam Harvey 10
48 Mark Vincent 10
48 Jamie O'Neill 10


Why isn't Oliver Brown in this list?

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Skullman

SnookerEd25 wrote:Why isn't Oliver Brown in this list?


I think Wild's excluded everyone on 0 points and Brown hasn't won a match in any ET event this season (performance in main rankers doesn't contribute).

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Skullman

vodkadiet wrote:Wenbo should get a suspension from the game for swearing at the ref. That sort of behaviour belongs on the football field. No room for it in snooker.


Well it seems it led to the forfeiture of the match. That's enough for now, although I agree that disciplinary action should be taken if he does it again. I'm guessing it would be a fine though instead of suspension.

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby SnookerEd25

Skullman wrote:
SnookerEd25 wrote:Why isn't Oliver Brown in this list?


I think Wild's excluded everyone on 0 points and Brown hasn't won a match in any ET event this season (performance in main rankers doesn't contribute).


Thanks, Skullman. I thought he bt. Ding in Yixing, but of course it was Wuxi qualifying. My mistake, not woken up properly yet.

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Andre147

Skullman wrote:
vodkadiet wrote:Wenbo should get a suspension from the game for swearing at the ref. That sort of behaviour belongs on the football field. No room for it in snooker.


Well it seems it led to the forfeiture of the match. That's enough for now, although I agree that disciplinary action should be taken if he does it again. I'm guessing it would be a fine though instead of suspension.


What? What did he say to the ref and why?

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Andy Spark

vodkadiet wrote:
Andre147 wrote:Still wondering how on earth Selby managed to win that 5th frame against Liang... the chinese player must have conceded is my best bet, after feeling ill or something similar.


Audible obscenity.


Slowby has that effect on people, but Liang should have called him a rubbish on social media after the match, not out there in the auditorium. Rudeness from Liang :no: There are places for obscenities, and those places are called things like snookerisland .com. :bags:

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Wildey

Skullman wrote:
SnookerEd25 wrote:Why isn't Oliver Brown in this list?


I think Wild's excluded everyone on 0 points and Brown hasn't won a match in any ET event this season (performance in main rankers doesn't contribute).

Quite Right

EBSA Order of MeritAfter Paul Hunter Classic

1 Paul Davison 80
2 Adam Duffy 70
2 Mitchell Travis 70
4 Martin O'Donnell 60
4 Sean O'Sullivan 60
6 Eden Sharav 50
6 Sanderson Lam 50
6 Kishan Hirani 50
6 Thomas J Dowling 50
6 William Lemons 50
6 Andreas Ploner 50
6 Alex Taubman 50
6 Jamie Rhys Clarke 50
14 John Sutton 40
14 Ryan Causton 40
14 Michael Williams 40
14 Duane Jones 40
14 Josh Boileau 40
14 Reanne Evans 40
20 Luke Garland 30
20 Hans Blanckaert 30
20 Michael Collumb 30
20 Jeff Cundy 30
20 Jack Bradford 30
20 Gareth Allen 30
20 Ben Jones 30
20 Christopher Keogan 30
28 Joe O'Connor 20
28 Luca Kaufmann 20
28 Zack Richardson 20
28 Ashley Carty 20
28 Saqib Nasir 20
28 Sascha Lippe 20
28 Marc J Davis 20
28 Ross Higgins 20
28 Dylan Craig 20
28 Andres Petrov 20
28 Nico Elton 20
28 Richard Beckham 20
28 Andrew Rogers 20
28 Martin McCrudden 20
28 Brian Cini 20
28 Anthony Jeffers 20
28 Jake Nicholson 20
28 Sergiy Isayenko 20
28 Rhys Clark 20
28 Billy Brown 20
48 Tan Wang Chooi 10
48 Kobi Mates 10
48 Daniel Wells 10
48 Stephane Ochoiski 10 .
48 Simon Dent 10
48 Jurian Heusdens 10
48 Carl Rosenberger 10
48 Joe Steele 10
48 Stefan Schenk 10
48 Jordan Brown 10
48 Tomasz Skalski 10
48 Roman Dietzel 10
48 Manon Melief 10
48 Ashley Hugill 10
48 Sam Harvey 10
48 Mark Vincent 10
48 Jamie O'Neill 10

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Andy Spark

Andre147 wrote:
Skullman wrote:From what I've gathered, Liang fouled a ball with his clothes and disagreed with the ref's decision and called him a 'bucking rubbish'.


rofl

Liang <doh> :wave:

He swore at the ref not Selby?

Re: Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion

Postby Andy Spark

Skullman wrote:Appears so. I should note that this information came from Twitter, which you may or may not consider a valid source.

Snookerbacker says he called the ref a "bucking rubbish"....ohh expensive! £££ <laugh>