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updated after first semi final judd trump beating fat bastard2 6-1

mark selby v ding junhui the remaining semi final to be played later on

1 mark williams 55360
2 mark selby 51245 or 52365 if he beats ding to reach final
3 ding junhui 50960 or 52080 if he beats selby to reach final
4 john higgins 50220
5 neil robertson 48100
6 stephen maguire 45300
7 ali carter 44640
8 shaun murphy 44565
9 graeme dott 37330
10 ronnie o sullivan 37060
11 peter ebdon 36480
12 matthew stevens 36395
13 judd trump 35115
14 stephen lee 34420
15 stuart bingham 34275
16 mark allen 33705
17 mark davis 33630
18 ricky walden 33450
19 jamie cope 33180
20 stephen hendry 33020
21 martin gould 31950
22 marco fu 31120
23 marcus campbell 30215
24 barry hawkins 30125
25 andrew higginson 29420
26 mark king 29210
27 joe perry 28750
28 ryan day 28185
29 ken doherty 28060
30 liang wenbo 27950
31 dominic dale 27715
32 gerard greene 26430

winning final gets a further 1400 points


so judd goes above fat bastard into 13 and if he wins the final tomorrow he goes above matthew stevens and peter ebdon up to number 11 and guarantees his place in the top 16 whatever happens at the crucible even if he lose his first match there

in the other semi final ding goes above selby if he beats him but neither player can be number 1 even if they win the tournament

So really Selby vs Ding is a battle for 2nd place?

SelbyFan wrote:So really Selby vs Ding is a battle for 2nd place?

only for now in 2 weeks time it could be a battle for No 1.

Wild wrote:

SelbyFan wrote:So really Selby vs Ding is a battle for 2nd place?

only for now in 2 weeks time it could be a battle for No 1.

I do hope so!

updated after both semi final results

1 mark williams 55360
2 mark selby 52365
3 ding junhui 50960
4 john higgins 50220
5 neil robertson 48100
6 stephen maguire 45300
7 ali carter 44640
8 shaun murphy 44565
9 graeme dott 37330
10 ronnie o sullivan 37060
11 peter ebdon 36480
12 matthew stevens 36395
13 judd trump 35115
14 stephen lee 34420
15 stuart bingham 34275
16 mark allen 33705
17 mark davis 33630
18 ricky walden 33450
19 jamie cope 33180
20 stephen hendry 33020
21 martin gould 31950
22 marco fu 31120
23 marcus campbell 30215
24 barry hawkins 30125
25 andrew higginson 29420
26 mark king 29210
27 joe perry 28750
28 ryan day 28185
29 ken doherty 28060
30 liang wenbo 27950
31 dominic dale 27715
32 gerard greene 26430

winning final gets a further 1400 points

Selby world number one at the end of the season

looking at the points of 2009/2010 season that will be taken off at the start of next season Shanghai and GP 2009 to be replaced with early PTC/shanghai and World Open ?

top 5 in the current Provisionals

Williams 7,140
Selby 1960
Ding 9,100
Higgins 8960
Robertson 7,980

and Ronnie with most to be deducted 9,660.

Selby 1,960 ?

Bourne wrote:Selby 1,960 ?

he did not win a match in 2009 shanghai or GP lost last 32

Ahhh I misread ! So he'll surely be number-one at least at some point in the next 5 months.

Wild wrote:

Bourne wrote:Selby 1,960 ?

he did not win a match in 2009 shanghai or GP lost last 32

in fact if Ronnie and Hendry loses in the same round in sheffield Hendry will start next season Provisionally higher than Ronnie

BTW

just to keep you happy i looked up Judd Trump 1,610

updated after completion of china open

1 mark williams 55360
2 mark selby 52365
3 ding junhui 50960
4 john higgins 50220
5 neil robertson 48100
6 stephen maguire 45300
7 ali carter 44640
8 shaun murphy 44565
9 graeme dott 37330
10 ronnie o sullivan 37060
11 judd trump 36515
12 peter ebdon 36480
13 matthew stevens 36395
14 stephen lee 34420
15 stuart bingham 34275
16 mark allen 33705
17 mark davis 33630
18 ricky walden 33450
19 jamie cope 33180
20 stephen hendry 33020
21 martin gould 31950
22 marco fu 31120
23 marcus campbell 30215
24 barry hawkins 30125
25 andrew higginson 29420
26 mark king 29210
27 joe perry 28750
28 ryan day 28185
29 ken doherty 28060
30 liang wenbo 27950
31 dominic dale 27715
32 gerard greene 26430


the only tournament remaining this season is the world championships which starts in thirteen days time in red means the player has failed to qualify for the crucible

the points breakdown are below

losing first round match means player gets zero points as minimum points already added

qualifier reaching last 16 gets 1000 points
seed reaching last 16 gets 2400 points

player reaching quarter finals gets further 1200 points
player reaching semi finals gets further 1400 points after that
player reaching final gets further 1600 points after that
winner gets additional 2000 points

my tip to be Top 16 players after the WC but maybe not exactly in that order.

mark williams
mark selby
ding junhui
john higgins
neil robertson
stephen maguire
ali carter
shaun murphy
graeme dott
ronnie o sullivan
judd trump
peter ebdon
matthew stevens
ricky walden
jamie cope
stephen hendry

i think Stevens will beat Allen and Ebdon beat Bingham and Hendry will beat Perry plus Walden and Cope winning their match.

but if Allen,Bingham or Lee wins their opening match Hendry is out unless he has a brilliant run.

Wild wrote:my tip to be Top 16 players after the WC but maybe not exactly in that order.

mark williams
mark selby
ding junhui
john higgins
neil robertson
stephen maguire
ali carter
shaun murphy
graeme dott
ronnie o sullivan
judd trump
peter ebdon
matthew stevens
ricky walden
jamie cope
stephen hendry

i think Stevens will beat Allen and Ebdon beat Bingham and Hendry will beat Perry plus Walden and Cope winning their match.

but if Allen,Bingham or Lee wins their opening match Hendry is out unless he has a brilliant run.

A Second round would be enough for Hendry would it not?

i think perry may be tougher than some think he

Casey wrote:

Wild wrote:my tip to be Top 16 players after the WC but maybe not exactly in that order.

mark williams
mark selby
ding junhui
john higgins
neil robertson
stephen maguire
ali carter
shaun murphy
graeme dott
ronnie o sullivan
judd trump
peter ebdon
matthew stevens
ricky walden
jamie cope
stephen hendry

i think Stevens will beat Allen and Ebdon beat Bingham and Hendry will beat Perry plus Walden and Cope winning their match.

but if Allen,Bingham or Lee wins their opening match Hendry is out unless he has a brilliant run.

A Second round would be enough for Hendry would it not?

if Lee,Walden,Cope,Bingham and Allen wins no it wont be theres only 3 places up for grabs with hendry being the lowest point tally of the 6 in contension

Hendry cant afford for 3 of thoes players to win or he needs to beat Selby.

Thanks for the updates this week jojo, great job Now that Judd is certain of top 16 I wouldn't begrudge Gouldy making it there as well in Sheffield.

It's a cracking top 16... Gould is the only name missing for me

would be nice to have a bit of black in there aswell but mcleod got his work cut out he just outside the top 32 would have to reach the final and if he does get past walden he play the fat bastard or dirt in the last 16 cant see it happening to be honest

realistically theres only the last three places to play for from fat bastard down and around eight players will be fighting for those spots what i will do when the world championship starts is try and update the provisional table after each match is completed or at the very least at the end of each days play

it will be colour coded ie players completed first round match players knocked out etc

Tubberlad wrote:It's a cracking top 16... Gould is the only name missing for me

ive done a quick calc Gould will probably have to reach the semis to get in the top 16 at the end of the season unless Walden and Cope loses 1st round then he could make it with a Quarter but unlikely.

wont be long before hes there though i think hes odds on to be seeded for the UK the way hes playing.

this is the new OFFICIAL World Rankings after the china open

1. John Higgins 58820
2. Mark Williams 56760
3. Mark Selby 55965
4. Ding Junhui 53360
5. Neil Robertson 53100
6. Shaun Murphy 51165
7. Stephen Maguire 48900
8. Allister Carter 47040
9. Graeme Dott 39730
10. Ronnie O'Sullivan 39460
11. Mark Allen 38705
12. Stephen Hendry 36620
13. Peter Ebdon 36480
14. Judd Trump 36015
15. Jamie Cope 35580
16. Ricky Walden 34850
17. Matthew Stevens 34745
18. Stephen Lee 34420
19. Mark Davis 34280
20. Stuart Bingham 34275
21. Marco Fu 33520
22. Martin Gould 31950
23. Andrew Higginson 31070
24. Ryan Day 30385
25. Mark King 30210
26. Barry Hawkins 30125
27. Liang Wenbo 29600
28. Marcus Campbell 28315
29. Gerard Greene 28080
30. Ken Doherty 28060
31. Joe Perry 27350
32. Tom Ford 26505
33. Dominic Dale 26065
34. Nigel Bond 24575
35. Rovert Milkins 24010
36. Rory McLeod 24005
37. Anthony Hamilton 22750
38. Mike Dunn 22570
39. Fergal O'Brien 21995
40. Jamie Burnett 21770
41. Steve Davis 21585
42. Barry Pinches 21520
43. Michael Holt 21450
44. Mark Joyce 21035
45. Tony Drago 20772
46. Joe Swail 20555
47. Peter Lines 20215
48. Matthew Selt 20195
49. Alan McManus 19780
50. Jamie Jones 19247
51. Rod Lawler 18830
52. Joe Jogia 18757
53. Adrian Gunnell 18640
54. Dave Harold 18635
55. Jack Lisowski 18567
56. Alfie Burden 18322
57. Andy Hicks 18245
58. Anthony McGill 17752
59. Jimmy White 17435
60. Ian McCulloch 17395
61. Matthew Couch 17110
62. Bjorn Haneveer 16707
63. Jimmy Robertson 16702
64. Liu Song 16530
65. Xiao Guodong 16082
66. Liam Highfield 15977
67. Liu Chuang 15722
68. Michael White 15082
69. Ben Woollaston 15007
70. David Morris 14925
71. James Wattana 14867
72, Patrick Wallace 14730
73. Stuart Pettman 14325
74. Kyren Wilson 13952
75. Simon Bedford 13870
76. Paul Davison 13767
77. Igor Figuieredo 13697
78. James McBain 13587
79. Joe Delaney 13525
80. Andrew Pagett 13232
81. David Gilbert 13085
82. Jimmy Michie 13040
83. Thanawat Thirapongpaiboon 12472
84. Zhang Anda 12232
85. Kurt Maflin 11762
86. Issara Kachaiwong 11522
87. Michael Judge 11415
88. Adam Wicheard 11127
89. Kuldesh Johal 10797
90. Justin Astley 10637
91. Paul Davies 10220
92. Dermot McGlinchey 9877
93. Noppon Saengkham 9857
94. Jamie O'Neill 9737
95. Jak Jones 9562
96. Patrick Einsle 9097
97. Reanne Evans 7632

so Judd Trump is officially a top 16 player going in to the world championship.

If the rankings were truly provisional for the Worlds then Judd would be playing Pagett

Bourne wrote:If the rankings were truly provisional for the Worlds then Judd would be playing Pagett

well if you swap like for like then yes with Robbo playing Marco Fu.

Neil Robertson v Marco Fu
Ricky Walden v Martin Gould
Graeme Dott v Mark King
Ali Carter v Dave Harold
Ding Junhui v Jamie Burnett
Stephen Hendry v Stuart Bingham
Peter Ebdon v Joe Perry
Mark Selby v Jimmy Robertson
Mark Williams v Ryan Day
Judd Trump v Andrew Pagett
Mark Allen v Matthew Stevens
Shaun Murphy v Barry Hawkins
Stephen Maguire v Marcus Campbell
Ronnie O Sullivan v Dominic Dale
Jamie Cope v Rory McLeod
John Higgins v Stephen Lee

50% of the draw would be identical.

just noticed on the World Snooker Rankings http://www.worldsnooker.com/staticFiles ... 669,00.pdf Jimmy White had no points for China which if thats Right Means hes 64th on this List http://prosnookerblog.com/rankings/2010 ... ment-13377

but FFS He won 3 matches to Qualify

Mark Williams has now been confirmed as the New World no 1 with the fight for no 2 extremely close

2 Selby 55965
3 Ding 55960
4 Higgins 55220

ive done a quick calc to see how the top 32 Provisionals will look at the Start of Next season with Shanghai/GP 2009 Points Deducted.

1 Selby 54005
2 Williams 53220
3 Higgins 49860
4 Ding 46860
5 Carter 43400
6 Maguire 41660
7 Murphy 41505
8 Robertson 40120
9 Trump 40050
10 Dott 38165
11 Allen 32825
12 Ebdon 32000
13 Stevens 31770
14 Lee 31655
15 O'Sullivan 31000
16 Gould 30710
17 Bingham 30655
18 Cope 30260
19 Hendry 30100
20 M C Davis 29360
21 Walden 27990
22 Hawkins 27660
23 Fu 27480
24 Higginson 26830
25 Campbell 26295
26 King 24590
27 Dale 24495
28 Perry 24270
29 McLeod 23745
30 Day 23705
31 Ford 23390
32 Greene 22510
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33 Doherty 21900
37 Wenbo 20390
39 S Davis 19475
40 Drago 19260
44 Mcmanus 18520
48 Lisowski 17955
52 Jimmy White 17030

cant believe old wiggs is so high

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