Re: Tied frame
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sootywooty wrote:Ok Thanks Alot!! Yes i was thinking that because it is yet to be potted, and if in off it is the same i would imagine because the black has yet to go down.
I will have to improve my off the cush cueing maybe not choking down enough to allow for the small amount of the cue showing, plus was the lenght of the table shoot also.
sootywooty wrote:Hi! again All! I had a game yesterday when my opponent was 7pts behind after i had potted the blue and pink, and then i missed the black all together and went in one of the top pockets because of mainly close to the cush cueing. So now the scores are level and then one of my mates said the black is not respotted and stays put because was not an in off and i lost because my opponent potted the black which was very close to the pocket.
What is the correct rule on this please! Thanks for any help.
Badsnookerplayer wrote:Thanks Aces - sorry Sooty.
Every day is a school day!
Pink Ball wrote:This happened in a world championship first-round decider between Nigel Bond and Stephen Hendry. Bond potted the winning black, or so he thought. He actually went in-off, and a re-spot was needed as the scores were tied.
Bond won anyway.
acesinc wrote:Pink Ball wrote:This happened in a world championship first-round decider between Nigel Bond and Stephen Hendry. Bond potted the winning black, or so he thought. He actually went in-off, and a re-spot was needed as the scores were tied.
Bond won anyway.
Fair play that Bond ultimately won this. Perhaps my most disappointing moment in regards to Stephen Hendry. The gamesmanship runs deep in this one.
https://youtu.be/TvPEBIF8dbc?t=218
(I can't figure out how to embed the YouTube if anyone has a tip for me...)
Probably an unpopular opinion here, but when Stephen cracked his cue, that is a clear sign of concession. By the Rules, the striker may accept or reject an offer of concession. By playing on, Nigel Bond in essence said, "I do not accept your concession, I will pot this ball." He didn't have to do that. He could have laid down his cue and extended his hand to accept Stephen's concession. Stephen very probably would have said, "He has to pot that ball!" but had I been the referee (and I am guessing any referee worth his/her salt), my reply would be that by cracking the cue, Stephen effectively said, "I have no intention of playing another stroke this match." i.e., "I concede." Case closed. This is very probably another case in point that surprisingly often, the players don't really know the more subtle rules of the game.
Lesson for the players here...if you are in a match, say with some minor wager on the line, and your unevolved brute of an opponent pulls the adolescent trick of cracking the cue like this, lay your cue down and accept the concession. No need at all to prove your manliness by potting the ball anyway under the pressure.Tell him if he cracked his cue, it was obviously to free up his hands to pull out his wallet. You will wow him with your super-human intelligence and knowledge of the Rules. And once a concession is offered, it CANNOT be rescinded. That is also in the Rules. Sorry, if you put your cue back together, it doesn't matter. Pay up.
Pink Ball wrote:And Steve Davis would have been world champion in 1985
rekoons wrote:Basic question: in case of a respotted black, who gets to break off?
Does the player who potted the black gets to choose who breaks the respot, or is it always the player who broke of the frame itself?
Dan-cat wrote:I made it up.
Badsnookerplayer wrote:Funny that as I just recalled that I used to play 3 and sometimes four handed snooker and we used all four rails in the scoreboard.
It is a pain playing that though as any foul points go to the preceding player so you benefit from going before a poor player.
Badsnookerplayer wrote:Interesting read that Aces.
I like the 'play again ' option which adds a new dimension.
When playing friendlies, I never play for snookers as I like to get on with the next frame.